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FHIR with trial version

Post by plebet » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:42 pm

Hey everyone,

tl;dr How can I enable the FHIR API with the trial version.

I am new to Open Dental development and am interested in connecting with the API. I downloaded the trial version to play with the API but it looks like I need to have an eServices account. I have hit the test api with postman and Java with success and was hoping to repeat that with the trial version. Is it possible to enable FHIR in the trial version? Or is my best bet to learn more about the middle tier?

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plebet

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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by cmcgehee » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:16 pm

As you have found, a valid registration key is needed to setup a FHIR API. We can possibly give you a developer registration key. I'll PM to get that rolling.
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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by plebet » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:25 pm

Thanks Chris,

I appreciate the help!

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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by danielmhanover » Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:15 pm

I am having this issue as well - can you please provide a developer registration key?

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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by cmcgehee » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:05 am

I'll send you a private message, Daniel.
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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by dhiraj » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:26 am

I am trying to enable FHIR with trial version,

Please provide the Registration Key for developer.

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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by dhiraj » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:20 am

I appreciate your help regarding registration key.

Thanks.

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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by cmcgehee » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:11 am

I'll send you a private message as well.
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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by dhiraj » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:46 pm

Thanks a ton Chris

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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by dhiraj » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:30 am

Hi Team,

I am trying to consume FHIR APIs with trial version and developer registration key, What I observed is the data in demo database and the response of the APIs does not match. Please let me know if I am doing something wrong.

Also I would like to know about certain details as mentioned below:

1. Is there any API endpoint which provides patient's treatment plan containing procedures codes(CDTs)?
2. Is there any API endpoint which provides patient's insurance details such as subscriber_id, insurance provider etc.

Please let me know if it is possible with either in paid version/trial version or not.

Thanks in advance

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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by cmcgehee » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:54 am

dhiraj wrote:1. Is there any API endpoint which provides patient's treatment plan containing procedures codes(CDTs)?
There is not, although one of my coworkers just started writing the code for this.
dhiraj wrote:2. Is there any API endpoint which provides patient's insurance details such as subscriber_id, insurance provider etc.
No, this is not available.
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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by dhiraj » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:38 am

Thanks for the update chris :)

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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by santoshjami » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:11 am

Chris -

I am trying to enable FHIR with trial version,

Please provide the Registration Key for developer.

Thanks
Santosh Jami

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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by cmcgehee » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:04 am

Yes, I will get you a registration key.

However, starting in version 18.4, it will no longer be possible to enable FHIR with a trial version. You will need the full version of Open Dental to use FHIR. Now if you have a developer registration key, you can download the full version and set up FHIR.
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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by bravegag » Sat May 25, 2019 12:58 am

Hello,

I'd like to also have a developer's registration key to setup FHIR. Right now when I do Menu Setup -> Advanced Setup -> FHIR then I get the error `No eService account found for this registration key`.

I have the OpenDental trial version 18.3.50.0 which is the one shown when I do Help -> About. I'm not sure whether this is the version for trial Client or Server or both?

Many TIA,
Best regards,
Giovanni

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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by cmcgehee » Tue May 28, 2019 9:04 am

Giovanni,

Go ahead and email vendor.relations@opendental.com to request a developer registration key.
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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by sjWiz » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:04 pm

Is there a time limit on using any given developer key and can you please provide me the instructions on incorporating updated CDT codes once the key is inputted?

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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by cmcgehee » Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:50 pm

There is no time limit for developer keys. It should work indefinitely. To update to the newest CDT codes, you can run the "D Codes" tool: https://opendental.com/manual/procedurecodetools.html.
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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by sjWiz » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:47 am

Thanks Chris for letting me know about the key duration and the direction on the codes. I am a bit wary by the statement, "this option does NOT work in the compiled version" ??

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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by cmcgehee » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:38 am

One of the only differences between the compiled version and the version we distribute is that the version we distribute includes CDT codes in one of the dlls. If you have a developer key, you can download the version that we distribute and therefore obtain the newest CDT codes.
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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by sjWiz » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:20 pm

Ok, I understand the difference now. Is the current distribution v. 19.2?

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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by cmcgehee » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:48 pm

Yes, 19.2. The beta version 19.3 is also available for download.
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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by technosoft » Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:56 am

Hi,
We're evaluating the FHIR. Can you please share the developer registration key for v19.1

Thank you!

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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by cmcgehee » Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:51 am

If you would like to use our test environment, you can find the developer key in https://www.opendental.com/resources/Op ... -4Spec.pdf. Our test environment is currently on version 19.4.

If you would like to connect to your own database, we will need to issue you a developer API key. You can request one from vendor.relations@opendental.com. In your email include:

Developer name:
Company name:
Email address:
A list of the API Resources you need access to, the level of access such as read/write/update:
A description of the application you are intending to build (type and purpose):
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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by sjWiz » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:55 am

cmcgehee wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:50 pm
There is no time limit for developer keys. It should work indefinitely. To update to the newest CDT codes, you can run the "D Codes" tool: https://opendental.com/manual/procedurecodetools.html.
Even after inputting my developer key, the D codes tools as well as the others are grayed out with the exception of N tools. Is there another step I need to perform?

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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by cmcgehee » Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:43 am

To use the D codes tool, you need to enter a valid registration key (this is different from a developer API key). You can email vendor relations if they have not given you one.
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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by sjWiz » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:56 pm

Thanks for the clarification... I got confused by your previous statement "If you have a developer key, you can download the version that we distribute and therefore obtain the newest CDT codes."

Is the registration key needed in addition/on top of the developer key...How long would this process take?

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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by cmcgehee » Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:14 am

I admit it can be a little confusing how we have developer registration keys, developer API keys, and customer API keys. I'm going to try to start referring to developer registration keys as testing registration keys.

If you want to download the CDT codes, you will need a testing registration key in addition to a developer API key. Sometimes when we give an individual a developer API key, they are working with an existing office so they don't the testing registration key.
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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by sjWiz » Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:06 pm

Yes it is... why these multiple layers of keys... Isn't OD open source at the software's core; it would then seem close-sourced and proprietary due to these loops/tiers we have to jump through haha.

Would it be faster to get a "testing registration key" if I call OD's developer line directly or just email the vendor one?

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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by cmcgehee » Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:01 am

The main reason we need to issue a testing registration key is because the CDT codes are proprietary. We have to pay a royalty for each registration key we give out. Open Dental as the company follows an open core model (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-core_model) where the main software is free and open source, and additional features are proprietary.

It would be faster to email vendor relations. OD developers don't have a direct phone line.
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Re: FHIR with trial version

Post by sjWiz » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:13 pm

Oh ok, I understand. Thanks for explaining and providing the link for further reading on the open model.

I did email them yesterday but still haven't heard back...

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