Visix vs Apteryx

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Visix vs Apteryx

Post by BPDentistryForKids » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:04 am

I just started a new pedo practice with a partner and we are looking at different imaging software programs. I was hoping to get input from users about how well visix and apteryx integrate with OD, and which one you would recommend and why? How messy is the tigerview bridge vs the apteryx bridge? Love some input, thanks

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Re: Visix vs Apteryx

Post by wjstarck » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:49 pm

PM Justin Shafer.

He is the supreme wizard of all things related to imaging
Cheers,

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Re: Visix vs Apteryx

Post by Jorgebon » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:19 pm

Both work nicely with Open dental. Apteryx has the advantage because it can work with most brands of digital sensors and PSP systems. Visix only works with Air Techniques equipment.
Jorge Bonilla DMD
Open Dental user since May 2005

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Re: Visix vs Apteryx

Post by rhaber123 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:18 pm

Schick CDR Dicom software is available for free for the USA - Canada dentists ONLY
https://www.schickbysirona.com/items.php?catid=714

SCHICK / SIRONA OFFER A VERY HIGH QUALITY SENSORS AND SOFTWARE

I have been using the Schick CDR software SINCE 2004 and Love it. At that time I had the regular Schick sensor
Schick software - CDR Dicom- integrate VERY WELL with Open Dental, it is already preset in Open Dental, it has its own bridge. A couple of clicks and you are ready to go.

1- FONA sensors, are the international versions of the old SCHICK SENSORS

2- Sirona Xios XG Select Sensor = Same As SCHICK ELITE

3- Sirona XIOS XG Supreme Sensor = Same as Schick 33
Available on Ebay today, from a USA seller for $4500 : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schick-Sirona-X ... SwuhhXWCmI
Schick 33 is a much better sensor than the Schick CDR Elite

4- you will need also a SCHICK hub for about $1200 to $1500 (be careful, you do not want to buy the HS white blue hub, will not work with Schick 33)
Schick Elite or Schick 33 Remote USB HUB : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schick-Elite-Re ... Sw-0xYiQfH
this hub work with the ELITE sensors and SCHICK 33 sensor, they use the same hub.

5- Sirona also offer the wireless option for the XIOS XG Supreme / schick 33. ( $3800 - $4000)
a- you can transform it into the WIRED and original format, by buying a cable that cost about $300 to $400
Schick CDR 33 or Elite Spare Cable Kit : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schick-CDR-33-A ... Sw9GhYkk-G
b- and you still need the hub about $1200 to $1500

The advantage of the new Schick sensors is you can replace the cable by yourself by just unscrewing two screws from the sensor, and screwing back the new cable
Some cable for the Schick Elite are different than the schick 33, and the new ones have an adapter that fits both. be carful when you buy the cable
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schick-CDR-33-A ... Sw9GhYkk-G

Almost 3 years ago, I bought the XIOS XG SUPREME ( same as Schick 33) from an international seller for around $6000
Downloaded the software from Schick website and I have no problem for the last 3 years.
I did all the installations. Not very hard. ALL instructions for Schick 33 are the same as Sirona Xios XG Supreme, instructions available on SCHICK/Sirona website
It is exactly the same sensor, same hardware, same drivers, etc.... just have a different name, but at a much lower price

The warranty apply only in the country where you bought the sensor from. the warranty will not cover it internationally, or here in the USA
If you have a problem, you have to mail it to that country. I gambled and won. Lucky me, I have no problem for 3 years. VERY GOOD PRODUCT BY SIRONA

SCHICK 33 sensor, and CDR Dicom Software offer a very good quality Xray - one of the best

Tried the software with an intraoral camera from Ebay and the intraoral camera worked too

***set it as default or disable any internal camera if you are using a laptop
or unplug any other external camera if you use a Skype camera

========================================================================================
Schick CDR Dicom software is available for free for the USA dentists ONLY (will be verified)
https://www.schickbysirona.com/items.php?catid=714

Registration Link:
just register and you will receive an email with a link to download the software.
Verification that you are a USA dentist will be made before the link is sent to you
https://www.schickbysirona.com/bbs3/ucp ... icom/?id=0

Schick software can work with many scanners, intraoral cameras , x-ray sensors, etc.... from other companies and from Ebay too
Tried it with an intraoral camera from Ebay and worked. If you have the driver and windows can find it, Schick CDR Dicom software most of the times will find it.

Open Dental has a bridge to the Schick Software
Setup/Program Links/Schick from http://www.schicktech.com
just enable it

=================================================================================
Anyone who is interested and want to try it and if you are a dentist in the USA or Canada
1- Get the software for FREE
2- Buy an intraoral camera from EBAY and test the functionality of the software and how it easily integrate with OPEN DENTAL
3- And then buy one of the above 3 types of sensors
Last edited by rhaber123 on Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:51 am, edited 3 times in total.

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Re: Visix vs Apteryx

Post by Justin Shafer » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:59 pm

wjstarck wrote:PM Justin Shafer.

He is the supreme wizard of all things related to imaging
LOL. Naa.... Just a fan boy of digital imaging software. I like Apteryx and Dexis and Schick and XDR and ImageXL and etc these days. but I would still chose Apteryx although I wish they had some better filters for X-Rays like Dexis and Schick and XDR and Kodak have. Apteryx can work with anything, but... have you guys seen the newer Schick filters? If you did, you would be impressed. The sensor itself feels like a tank, but... the filters are nice.

Apteryx seems to lack a closed, proprietary filter like others have. I think.. correct me if I am wrong. One office had Apteryx with Kodak sensors and software... I liked that setup. That allowed Apteryx to use the Kodak filters... as long as the kodak software is installed. Pat at Apteryx told me about it... Worked great. Imagine if Schick was installed and Apteryx could use the Schick filters. :D

Visix looks good, but only works on Air Techniques like JorgeBon (who is a bad ass at SQL I might add) has mentioned.
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Re: Visix vs Apteryx

Post by Justin Shafer » Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:02 pm

rhaber123 wrote:Schick CDR Dicom software is available for free for the USA - Canada dentists ONLY
https://www.schickbysirona.com/items.php?catid=714

SCHICK / SIRONA OFFER A VERY HIGH QUALITY SENSORS AND SOFTWARE

I have been using the Schick CDR software SINCE 2004 and Love it. At that time I had the regular Schick sensor
Schick software - CDR Dicom- integrate VERY WELL with Open Dental, it is already preset in Open Dental, it has its own bridge. A couple of clicks and you are ready to go.

1- FONA sensors, are the international versions of the old SCHICK SENSORS

2- Sirona Xios XG Select Sensor = Same As SCHICK ELITE

3- Sirona XIOS XG Supreme Sensor = Same as Schick 33
Available on Ebay today, from a USA seller for $4500
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schick-Sirona-X ... SwuhhXWCmI
Schick 33 is a much better sensor than the Schick CDR Elite

4- you will need also a SCHICK hub for about $1200 to $1500 (be careful, you do not want to buy the HS white blue hub, will not work with Schick 33)
Schick Elite or Schick 33 Remote USB HUB
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schick-Elite-Re ... Sw-0xYiQfH
this hub work with the ELITE sensors and SCHICK 33 sensor, they use the same hub.

5- Sirona also offer the wireless option for the XIOS XG Supreme / schick 33. ( $3800 - $4000)
a- you can transform it into the WIRED and original format, by buying a cable that cost about $300 to $400
b- and you still need the hub about $1200 to $1500

The advantage of the new Schick sensors is you can replace the cable by yourself by just unscrewing two screws from the sensor, and screwing back the new cable
Some cable for the Schick Elite are different than the schick 33, and the new ones have an adapter that fits both. be carful when you buy the cable
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schick-CDR-33-A ... Sw9GhYkk-G

Almost 3 years ago, I bought the XIOS XG SUPREME ( same as Schick 33) from an international seller for around $6000
Downloaded the software from Schick website and I have no problem for the last 3 years.
I did all the installations. Not very hard. ALL instructions for Schick 33 are the same as Sirona Xios XG Supreme, instructions available on SCHICK/Sirona website
It is exactly the same sensor, same hardware, same drivers, etc.... just have a different name, but at a much lower price

The warranty apply only in the country where you bought the sensor from. the warranty will not cover it internationally, or here in the USA
If you have a problem, you have to mail it to that country. I gambled and won. Lucky me, I have no problem for 3 years. VERY GOOD PRODUCT BY SIRONA

SCHICK 33 sensor, and CDR Dicom Software offer a very good quality Xray - one of the best

Tried the software with an intraoral camera from Ebay and the intraoral camera worked too

***set it as default or disable any internal camera if you are using a laptop
or unplug any other external camera if you use a Skype camera

========================================================================================
Schick CDR Dicom software is available for free for the USA dentists ONLY (will be verified)
https://www.schickbysirona.com/items.php?catid=714

Registration Link:
just register and you will receive an email with a link to download the software.
Verification that you are a USA dentist will be made before the link is sent to you
https://www.schickbysirona.com/bbs3/ucp ... icom/?id=0

Schick software can work with many scanners, intraoral cameras , x-ray sensors, etc.... from other companies and from Ebay too
Tried it with an intraoral camera from Ebay and worked. If you have the driver and windows can find it, Schick CDR Dicom software most of the times will find it.

Open Dental has a bridge to the Schick Software
Setup/Program Links/Schick from http://www.schicktech.com
just enable it

=================================================================================
Anyone who is interested and want to try it and if you are a dentist in the USA or Canada
1- Get the software for FREE
2- Buy an intraoral camera from EBAY and test the functionality of the software and how it easily integrate with OPEN DENTAL
3- And then buy one of the above 3 types of sensors
Interesting.. I wonder if their are any firmware issues or driver differences... Like with Gendex\Dexis sensors. Very interesting.

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Re: Visix vs Apteryx

Post by rhaber123 » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:55 am

I think it is the same hardware, just different packaging. I have been using it for almost 3 years now. For the installation I downloaded everything from the schick website. I did not use what came with the sensor. I had no problem. Easy installation

Before I purchased the items, I contacted Sirona, emailed them in Europe, they were more helpful in Europe .
I asked them few questions about the wireless option, and they confirmed to me that I can ad the cable to the wireless sensor and it will become the WIRED OPTION, they told me that it was the same sensor head . I think more technical questions could be directed to Sirona/Schick directly .

The quality that the schick 33 /Sirona Xios Supreme sensors and the SCHICK CDR Dicom software provide is amazing. I can not roll back.

When you buy the wireless sensor, you get everything that you need to take digital xrays,
The advantage is, you can move it easily from one operatory to another, you do not need to buy multiple hubs, so it's cost is the best for multiple operatories.($4000 - $4500)
you just take the sensor from one operatory to another, very efficient and easy to use.
It connects through your wireless network. So if you have good WIFI coverage, you will connect easily, but there may be a slight delay in processing the xray when an Xray is taken.
My assistant did not like this delay when she was taking a full mouth X-ray, she said: " it takes for ever" , for her it was eternity although it was few extra seconds per xray taken, and if your assistant is not happy, you are in big trouble. If you are taking few xrays, you will be OK, this will be a good option for multiple operatories.
YES it was slower. That is the reason why we changed it to the WIRED option.

NOW IT IS SUPER FAST, THE BEST!

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