Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

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Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

Post by Rickliftig » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:31 pm

Finally figured this one out!

It's not infrequent that I have to chart a root tip that has lost its crown and is now non-restorable.

I set up a procedure code N4888 (whatever NXXXX you want) and I used an abbreviation fx (again whatever.).

Paint type is Crown light and treatment area is tooth; Here's the secret - click on the color override button and select a new color. I used black and voila - these dead soldiers are now clearly charted,
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Re: Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

Post by Arna » Thu Sep 01, 2016 3:28 pm

That's a great workaround. I know we have a feature request for a retained root graphic (I know, because I added it) #217. On my notes, we actually state "It should be possible to create a dummy code with a crown drawing type and dark black color to signify a total missing coronal tooth structure". Great minds.

If you've got a spare vote, throw it up towards this feature. I'd like to see both a graphic root tip as well.
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Re: Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

Post by enamelrod » Fri Sep 02, 2016 5:10 am

the master strikes again... you always seem to have great tricks

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Re: Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

Post by Rickliftig » Fri Sep 02, 2016 6:34 am

enamelrod wrote:the master strikes again... you always seem to have great tricks
I was the kid that pulled all the toys apart to see how they worked (Couldn't get them back together again, though!) :D
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Re: Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

Post by Tom Zaccaria » Fri Sep 02, 2016 6:40 am

Sorry guys/gals. I followed your directions and used green for color but nothing happened.
Setup the code and the properties as you described, used a missing tooth area, Selected Existing Other from conditions but no luck. It is listed in the chart as a root tip but no graphic.

We are on 16.2.30

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Re: Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

Post by Arna » Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:53 am

Double check that the code is set to chart as a tooth type in Lists > Procedure Codes and double check your paint type. Either the Tx area or the paint type (or both) is off.

Is it dark green? That's fantastically morbid.
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Re: Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

Post by Arna » Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:54 am

Rickliftig wrote:
enamelrod wrote:the master strikes again... you always seem to have great tricks
I was the kid that pulled all the toys apart to see how they worked (Couldn't get them back together again, though!) :D
Were you responsible for all the broken remote controls in the house?
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Re: Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

Post by Rickliftig » Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:58 am

Arna - you can probably blame the missing batteries/empty battery package on me.
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Re: Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

Post by Rickliftig » Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:00 am

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Re: Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

Post by Tom Zaccaria » Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:07 am

I tried to take a picture of my setting but can't figure out how to post it but here is what I have.

Paint Type = Crown Light (Tried Filling Light, no luck)
Treatment Area = Tooth
Color Override = Dark Blue
Category = Oral Surgery
Condition = Existing Other

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Re: Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

Post by Rickliftig » Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:21 am

My settings:

Paint Type - Crown Light
Treatment Area - Tooth
Color Overide - black (all others work too)
Category - (One of mine) Diagnosis codes

Where did you get condition from? Now that I think of it, that would only show up in the chart.

Are you in the Lists - Procedure code Menu item? (CTRL+Shift+F)

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Re: Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

Post by Arna » Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:15 pm

Did you select a tooth before using the code? Is it registering the tooth number in the chart?
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Re: Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

Post by Tom Zaccaria » Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:54 pm

What I am calling Condition is 'Entry Status' eg Treatment Planned, Existing Other, Existing Current...
Lists, Procedure Codes
Tooth is selected.

Maybe I have something else turned off or not selected!
I will try again tomorrow.

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Re: Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

Post by Arna » Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:44 pm

If you can't figure it out by Tues, give me a quick call. It's probably something really simple that we're overlooking.
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Re: Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

Post by enamelrod » Fri Sep 02, 2016 5:23 pm

i could always get it back together...does not mean it worked but no one knew i broke it.

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Re: Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

Post by DavidWolf » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:56 am

If we can get the custom color settings for the chart background we can make it disappear completely. We need to know the Hue: Sat: Lum: Red: Green: Blue: settings for the chart background color.
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Re: Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

Post by Arna » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:03 am

You can change the chart background color in Setup > Definitions > Chart Graphic Colors. The Main Background color can be modified.
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Re: Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

Post by DavidWolf » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:04 am

DavidWolf wrote:If we can get the custom color settings for the chart background we can make it disappear completely. We need to know the Hue: Sat: Lum: Red: Green: Blue: settings for the chart background color.
Actually I tried to match it and because of the shading it still looks like a crown. Maybe we should request a paint type called invisible :-)
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Re: Trick to show missing crown/retained root tips on chart

Post by drmkpillai » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:18 am

Yes, IF we have a paint type that matches the background type then it would totally be invisible and also preserve the freedom to change the background without altering the graphics.

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